IslandDrumz

Welcome to our little slice of paradise! Clear Lake Shores is probably one of the best kept secrets in the entire Bay Area. Yes we are an island. We are surrounded by Clear Lake, Jarbo Bayou and the Lazy Bend canals. Plug this in to Google Maps and you'll see what I mean 29.32' by 95.01' We are about half way between Galveston Island and the city of Houston and located in north Galveston county. I will try to keep us up on all the goings on that we can walk, boat, bike or drive our golf carts to. Very few things pi$$ me off but one of them is wasting my precious time. I'll try not to waste yours. Enjoy. ab

Saturday, January 21, 2012

100 give or take.

OK, here’s a thought. Everybody CALM down. That’s better. There are 6 more council meetings. And we’ve got about 102 days of this nonsense. My thoughts are contacting the AG office is a waste of energy. It sounds good and maybe in a perfect world, but the short version is it’s a governmental office and the odds of a government office doing squat in 100 days is slim. The Galveston County DA’s office has already been contacted. They are paying attention but again unlikely to do anything in the short time we have left. You want to do something? Talk to your neighbors. Engage them. Ask them if they even want to know what’s going on. If they do great, if not move on. Ask them if they are registered to vote. If not, ask if you can help. You have neighbors out there who are not registered because they think it puts them in the jury pool. While I personally don’t care for that attitude it is their life. They do need to know though that the county uses drivers license’ for jury selection not voter registration. It’s our neighbors who don’t have the opportunity to attend the City Council meetings or read this blog that are targeted. If you did neither but talked to Councilman Perkins about the goings on around here you would probably think I had two heads and a 666 tattoo. That is who they will target. I guarantee it. I’ve seen it happen. And to be honest it is quite fascinating to watch. I had Councilman Fuller stand in my driveway and tell me, my wife and two neighbors how the Town Center was going to level the houses on Tindel. If I didn’t know better I would have been with him demanding the end of the Town Center too. Understand there are people on this Island who have no qualms about telling lies to their neighbors to get their way. Is that what politics is all about? I thought you were supposed to serve your fellow man for the betterment of the whole. What a dumb-ass I am.

The Credit card BS is just that. It is a mind set and a political tool. Tell a lie long enough and some folks will start to believe it. It’s harassment that’s all. They’re hoping to reach a low BS tolerance and someone will quit. One way to make this BS stop is a simple change in the open records policy. Currently we let anyone make a request for anything. All as it should be. When the office staff finally compiles the requested list we let the requestor pick and choose what they want and that’s what they pay for. That’s Cherry Picking. If a record pertains to your request and the staff makes it available you pay for it. Period.

And what’s all this talk about threats to elected officials? Anon 9:18 I'm calling you out. I went through yesterdays’ comments and failed to find any threat. Unless you count “us” throwing “them” out of office a threat. I’d like to think of it as more of a promise. No threats folks, we don’t need it and If I see it I’ll remove it. Now go outside and enjoy your Saturday. And talk to a neighbor while you’re at it.

90 comments:

SPorter said...

AB ... once again, Outstanding. A calm and reasonable voice in a storm of crazy BS ... I love the Blog for a lot of reasons, but clarity, rationale and honest discourse amoung the ANON's are not in that set of reasons. Thanx Bud ... see ya' aroung Paradise. SP

Anonymous said...

Speaking of SP; whatever happened to the Bug Jar analogy?

Are was that a metaphor?




SIASD

Anonymous said...

MMmmm...Are you saying if complaints are on file at the DA's they will, for lack of a better word, expire if the 3 stooges are no longer on Council? I don't think so.

I am sending my complaint to the DA and the AG for added support from Gregg Abbott's Office. I am a realist about the volume of inquiries that must pass through that office daily. If nothing else, perhaps the DA will take note of the cc to the AG. Perhaps it will be a prompt for attention to the case. The DA and the ADA have had numerous conferences with our Mayor and residents. We need to commit to this effort as much as we need to campaign this spring.

They broke the law. They are criminals. I question if they did not meet illegally and brought only their indivual thoughts to the council table how much better off we would have been since June. Perhaps there would not have been an investigation. Perhaps some progress would have been made in our community.

I do not want others to be discouraged from taking action, Allan, since the clock is widing down. I believe their negative actions will continue until the election.Perhaps they will be more cautious for their remaining time if they know criminal and civil charges are looming over their heads. Maybe not.

Anonymous said...

Yeah! This isn't about our city or progress or making things better around here, this is about getting blood!

We won't stop until this is the nice, peaceful, quiet and neighborly community that we all keep saying it used to be and by-god we will rip the still-beating hearts from the very cavity of those that offend us and stand before them with their ragged flesh between our fingers and scream in thier very faces our battle-cry - STOP RATIONAL THOUGHT!!!

Point being - this aint about our community. This is about mob mentality and anon buttons.

Anonymous said...

Are the people here that keep pushing for the DA and investigations and prosecutions, etc. some of the same people who conintually claim to be Conservative Republicans?
What is your opinion on our fair governers recent championing of a law restricting frivilous lawsuits?
What is your opinion of less government intervention and meddling?
What is your opinion of tattle-tales?

Tami and Jackie will be up for re-election - Vote them out. They're idiots; agreed. However, you people VOTED FOR THEM! Or, maybe you didn't vote. Either way YOU should be prosecuted!
Did you hear Tami speak at meet the candidates night?
Jackie doesn't know the definition of Eminent Domain, yet claimed it could be used.
Arlene said she just wants to plant trees.
YOU ARE THE IDIOTS!

I'm looking at you;
Craig!
Roselyn!
You, and your friends did this!

Now it's time for US to clean it up. US - The Citizens of Clear Lake Shores!
Go to council. Say something new and constructive or STFU. (I'm talking to you rambling Suzanne) When it comes time - VOTE

Anonymous said...

Yeah! This isn't about our city or progress or making things better around here, this is about getting blood! So far we got blood from:
Tina,Paul and Kenny. Vern has suffered as well as Al and Richard. The residents certainly felt rapped. Karen is in line.We may be the minority of the population but we make up for it in our destructive mentality.

Back at you but the above comment is closer to reality. If you don't like the anon button, don't use it. I bet more Pinkss would use their real names too.

Anonymous said...

Dearest Anon 5:27
You can go back through this entire dialouge/blog/comments section and switch out NS and Anti-NS and you will find that the same irrational behavior exists on both sides of the fence- Both groups want somebody prosecuted. Both groups think the other is to blame. BOTH groups want blood. Both groups ignore each other's reasoning and hold their own to be superior.
I think Allan's point was - get over the counterproductive crap. Move on to something productive.

My point IS that YA CAN'T.
See. YOU CAN'T DO IT. You are locked into the same ignorant mentality as Bernie and Tami's supporters.
YOU ARE THE SAME AS THEM.
I didn't point out who's blood, I just pointed out that YOU want blood. I'm right aint I?
I obviously don't object to the anon button. I'm just pointing out that mob mentality and crude comments are all this will ever amount to. NOBODY WILL BE PROSECUTED. N O B O D Y. Tami isn't going to sit in jail or pay a fine. Paul isn't going to sit in jail or pay a fine.
If you take some time and think about it without the anger and hatred, you will see that.
This is really gonna piss ya off but - IT DOESN'T EVEN MATTER WHO'S SIDE YOU'RE ON. We have already all lost. just gotta wait until May and start over.

Anonymous said...

Finally 447 has gotten to the bottom of it. It wasn't the three stooges and NS that caused all of this. It was Roselyn and I. Dang it Roselyn I thought we wouldn't get caught. It must have been that rambling Suzanne that brought us down.

Anonymous said...

It is an embarrassment for the lack of civility on all sides.

Anonymous said...

I believe all parties have their faults in this. I believe there has been wrongdoing and it could have been handled with less drama and no threats. I don't agree with who was hired to investigate but there should have been an investigation to determine where the problems are. The City is at fault for putting too much power in one person's hands. The safeguards created by each of those positions were lost when one person was put in charge. It did become a fiefdom of sorts. No different from the one Obama has created. The only solution is to have an outside source review our financial records and/or have Karen produce all personal charges the City has incurred from anyone. This needs to be dealt with and then corrected so it doesn't happen again. The City should learn there is a reason why each position should be filled and not given over to one person. The CC as a whole should work to repair this rift. Also after reading that AG Opinion I found that there are probably numerous mistakes being made by all parties including all the CC, Mayor, City Manager and Police Chief. We can all learn some tolerance and work at fixing the problems rather than creating more drama. I doubt this will stop anyone from going to the DA but once you realize that everyone involved may be hurt it will be too late if DA & AG don’t laugh all of us out of their offices for acting like spoiled brats. The law is what it is and it is blind to our selective enforcement. Having CLS’s books reviewed by a Forensic CPA is a common practice as it protects the City, State, or Business from mistakes or wrongful acts. Forensic CPA isn't looking at paying your taxes or bills but is looking at the payments. It sounds like this has never been done so it is time to do it. It would be a good practice to do at the end of each Mayoral term of office. It is just like taking an inventory prior to assuming control. It is also puts a lock on the back door that may stop the thought of abusing the system. The City is growing and more controls will need to be put in place to protect us from abuse. In the next election we should look at who has business experience and can help or lead in that endeavor.

The Police Officers had grievances and there was nowhere to take it. One person, holding multiple positions was their problem. The place to go in that situation was to the CC. This time instead of selecting an individual to listen to their grievances the entire CC was notified as one. Vern, City Attorney and a CC member met with them to air those grievances. I see a good thing although I’m waiting like everyone else to find out if it will work out better than last time. It does show everyone is learning how to make better choices. One grievance I heard is that our current Officers haven’t been issued a Vest for their protection. Milliken stood in front of a gun with no vest that day. We are giving pay raises all these years but the neither Chief ever saw to protecting our officers with the most basic of equipment, or updating those vest that had expired. This alone shows that our City is not attending to everyday business.

Allen and others are right that reasonable heads should prevail. Statements like I don’t care who used a City Credit Card as long as they paid it back, isn’t something you would say if it were yours nor is that someone I would want to lead us in to the future. We need real leadership out of this next election and not falsified claims of being something they are not.

Anonymous said...

ok, why the Obama reference?
How is that relevant?
Do you assume that any other president in the history of our country has ever posted political enemies in presidential appointed positions?

The City Admin job was created for Paul Shelley. He was performing the duty so a group of "reasonable heads" prevailed and created the position to justly and rightfully compensate Paul Shelley for his service to this community. Like him or not he worked hard here. Successfully for many years.

There were/are routes for police officers with inernal issues to resolve. Going to Tami was a bad decision. But, not nearly as bad as what Tami did with it when she got it. That was just dumb. I would say that's the reason we're all here.

If there was substance to, or concern with the credit card matter then Bernie the Neighbor Harrasser, Kathy and Tami and all the other C.A.V.E people would have thrown that out months ago. It's currently being used as a diversionary tactic. Effectively I might add.

OBAMA 2012!

Anonymous said...

Anon 8:26, when you voted for Tami what did you think would happen?

Did you think she was a good neighbor and that made her a leader?

You're very selective about what parts of statements and accusations you respond to aren't ya? LOL
You're the one that wants opposing viewpoints. Mine is that you voted the bums in, now wait until you can vote them out and stop with the DA and AG and ABCs crap. That does nothing for our community.

ab said...

Jean, Larry, you ever throw trash in my yard again I will empty my large cans in your front yard. Because I am fairly friendly I will leave them in the bags. Mostly.

Anonymous said...

Why can't I be a conservative Democrat? Moron.
NOBAMA 2012!

Anonymous said...

About the trash that was thrown in our yards...consider the sounce.
Perhaps we should return that trash to 711 W. Shore's front yard.

Anonymous said...

Anon 7:45 I was disappointed in Bush, Jr., my mother was disappointed in the Clintons especially Hillary, and so it goes. I see both Republicans, Democrats and Independents saying Obama has to go. None of us can be positive how a person will act once they are in Office but every now and then we can agree they need to go. Just for the record I didn't vote for Tami or one other but I see the need to work with who was elected for the betterment.

I don't know whose idea it was to create a job for someone who had an important job but that was a mistake. Being a Chief of Police is a full time job. Given a choice I would have voted No. You say there was other routes for the Police, please enlighten us. I see Paul as Chief of Police/City Mgr and Tina his wife, so where were they supposed to go within the City if not to the CC? Prime example is this time, Vern, City Atty. and a CC member met with the Officers. Vern did it right.

I would agree with to no substance had Karen and Paul furnished the CC with those documents showing the charges and the paybacks. Vern hasn't stood up and said he gave verbal or written approval for Paul or any other employee to us City Finances for their own personal bank. Vern also hasn't produced the documents where employees made the charges against City Finances nor any paper showing it being paid back. The Mayor, City Manager and Chief Financial Officer (Karen) caused the drama by their actions and failure to disclose. Just like the Police where does the CC go to get answers when the People who should give the answers are those who committed the cause?

My opinion is the CC needs to protect our finances and get to the bottom of this before they gave anyone a raise also.

The City needs full disclosure and the termination of City Finances being used as your personal bank. The Citizens of the City use their paycheck to pay their bills why are these privileged few not held to the same standard.

Anonymous said...

Honestly, there was trash thrown in your yard? Tell me that was a metaphor for throwing trash on the blog.

Anonymous said...

@9:41,
If there were laws broken then officers could have contacted the Galveston County District Attorney's office. If there was some sort of internal abuse or mistreatment, the DPS office or in more serious matters the Texas Rangers have been known to investigate corruption, harrassment and abuse cases. And, with the current "liberal" administration in power you could always try the Justice Department. Now, if you think your boss's wife is a meanie and nobody is being nice to you then you may have your hands tied... unless of course you can find somebody with a political agenda that you can manipulate to fit your needs. You know, to improve morale and all. But, you may say to yourself "what if it isn't better after the meanie is gone?" Well, try it again. Who's to stop you?
Again with the credit cards?

anybody but obama huh?

Anonymous said...

Your reaction would have been better had the Police gone outside the City? I don't believe your greatest support on here would believe that one. Statements like yours is why it is so difficult to take you serious. It was and is a City issue and again what we are seeing from Vern is a start in the right direction.

My hope, is by the time this process gets to our State that we will have a better choice left.

Anonymous said...

Well, at least 9:13 signed their name correctly: "Moron". Yep, you certainly are!

Anonymous said...

@10:30 - you asked for alternatives for the police and I listed a couple.
I think you're trying to argue in circles and confuse facts.
If there is a problem within the police department I would want it resolved. I hope that you would also.
A CC agenda item to REMOVE THE CHIEF OF POLICE - with no explanation, no warning and no communication regarding the same was not the way to go.
One thing I can promise you is that I don't have a "greatest support on here".
I think somebody hitched thier buggy to the wrong horse... just not sure who's the buggy and who is the horse. Did the PD go to Tami and say "you're our only hope". Or, did Tami and some other reginal wannabe politico go to the PD and say "we're your only hope". Either way, I would bet an empty lot on North Shore that it wasn't a chance discovery. Somebody introduced those two ideas and that somebody had ulterior motives. (Or, alterior for those of you on the East side of the island.)
Paul was doing the work of a City Administrator and the city didn't have one. Since he was doing the work a group of forward thinking, pro-active and community concerned citizens elected by this community chose to properly compensate him for it. I would think it had something to do with being a reward for his service immediatly after IKE either directly or indirectly. Like Paul or not. He has SERVED this community.
The situation worked out becasue the city saved money on the extra position and other than within the department and probably Bernie and Kathy, there were no complaints. I grant you that a concern within the department is a big one and should be addressed. Just not like it was.
Tami was wrong.

Anonymous said...

Anon 755 firts of all I did not mean to post anon without signing. I hope everyone knew it was me. It seemed clea enough. You ask what I expected when I voted for Tami. I expected her to be the person she described herself as at meet the candidates night and to be the person I thought I had known for years. As it turns out she dissapointed me to say the least. I don't need to go further. Everyone who has paid attention sees who she is now. I am not selective about my statements at all. I have told everyone and have posted on this blog many times that I voted for Tami and have let everyone know what a hugh mistake I made and that I feelbad about it. I certainly haven't left that out. Maybe that is partly why I am so outspoken. I want to make sure everyone knows and understands what NS is all about and they have beeen this way for years. I had no idea Tami was wrapped up with NS when I voted for her. I guess wasn't paying attention. My Bad as they say. As far as the DA and AG goes that isn't even me doing that so please direct that complaint to the right party. I can't believe yall think I am a big enough threat to make all f this to do over my posts. It makes me feel impotent.

Craig

Anonymous said...

Hey 918 from two days ago. You told everyone two days ago I contridicted myself regarding my feelings about how are PD was handleing their complaints. I ask you to direct me to the post where that happened and you have not done so. You told everyone some were making threats Allan has called you on that one and you can't offer up any examples. You my friend are apparantly full of it.

Now to Sunshine and Larry. On the positive side you presented alleged facts in well written manor and signed your names. That is a big step for NS. On the negative side one of your deliveryman was spotted passing these out at two in the morning. There had to be at least three or four of you passing these out. I know how long it takes to do it. First of all why were you scared to do it in the light of day. Secondly why in the hell did our officers allow you all to run around the neighborhood at two in the morning soliciting? I think I know why but thought I would pose the question anyway.

Now to the alleged problem. We now have alleged evidence presented by you all stateing Paul made personal charges on the City card. This he has admitted. Please answer these questio9ns that many have been discussing today and the ones above.

What is the total dollar amount allegedly charged for personal use by Paul?

How many individual charges were there?

Were they paid back?

If not how many are unpaid and how much is not paid?

Has your attorney told you a law has definately been broken and will the DA accept charges or are you just assumeing and hopeing they will?

If the information you passed out is true fine. Now answer these questions for us.

It is my understanding your end game is to remove Paul and place either Bernie or Kathy as or City Manager while you still have the votes. It seems clear both are unqualified for the job so this seems nothing more than a power play to get your buddies a job.

Look at Kathys attempt to be Mayor. Good Lord what a mess that was. Bernie is on probation, is faceing 70 more counts and was shown on tv telling a reporter that he threw the toilet paper over his neighbors fence so the little plastic frogs could wipe themselves. WOW! And this is who you crazies want to put in charge of our City?

We all know what Paul has done for this City. Ike is his crowing jewel but that is only the tip of the iceberg when it comes to what he has done for this City. As his good friend Sunshine, you know that.

If Paul used the City card and paid it back, I for one am fine with that. I can hear the gasp from across the street at Cave Central. You Tube Sunshine and Larry are shocked anyone could feel that way. When you get over the horror Sunshine, answer the questions. Many of us want the answers.

Our Officers. I was glad to hear the meeting went well according to the grapevine. I don't know what went on can anyone enlighten us? But I hear it was a start. Great that is how it should have been handled from day one instead of Queen Tami trying to run her own show. I know, it was probably led by her handlers but you all know what I mean. Anyway I hope positive progress is made within the Dept. If NS will get the hell out of the way I think it will.

918, Allan and I are still waiting!

Craig

Anonymous said...

I heard they when to a City Counsel Member because that is the law of the land per the AG's ruling on a quorum. The only other choice was to go to the full board. If Tami was the first contacted, or she was just the one willing to do the leg work to confirm the complaints, I don't know. It would be a good question to ask? None of our Officers live on the island per Paul's Rules, so none are eligible to vote. Why the wording was on the Agenda about the Chief of Police as it was needs to be answer by the CC not the Officers. The Officers have nothing to do with the CC Agenda.

Paul did a good job as Chief of Police until as stated "a group of forward thinking, pro-active and community concerned citizens elected by this community" screwed it up. Paul did a great job during Ike in his position as Chief of Police. The so called "group of forward thinking, pro-active and community concerned citizens elected by this community" would have better served this City by putting it on the ballot for there to be a paid Mayor's Position who would handle the duties of Administrator. Then Paul would not had to split his time between two full time jobs. Possibly we would not have had Officers without vest, would not have had items missing form the evidence room, would not have Officers leaving constantly for better paying positions and so on. I personally believe it is time our Mayor is a paid position and that the City Administrator Position be terminated. We need good leadership and it is about time we paid for it. The Voters need to vote for who they want to run their City and not have a figure head any longer and City Administrator who doesn't answer to the citizens.

Anonymous said...

What is the total dollar amount allegedly charged for personal use by Paul?

Answer: Ask Paul and Karen. Vern needs to answer if he approved Paul's actions and who told Karen not to report Paul's and possibly others actions to the CC.

How many individual charges were there?

Answer: Ask Paul, Karen and Vern. If Vern approved it he should have knowledge and Karen should have all the documentation available to support the purchases and the pay back.

Were they paid back?

Answer: Ask Paul, Karen and Vern.

If not how many are unpaid and how much is not paid?

Answer: Ask Paul, Karen and Vern

Has your attorney told you a law has definately been broken and will the DA accept charges or are you just assumeing and hopeing they will?

Answer: Our City Attorney needs to determine that but Paul, Karen and Vern need to provide documentation and answer the questions above so the City Atty. and possibly the Galveston DA can determine if there is wrong doing and by whom. Further is Paul the only one allowed to use the City Finances as his own personal bank?

If the information you passed out is true fine. Now answer these questions for us.

Answer: Paul, Vern and Karen should have done that months ago. We need the Audit now to determine what has been going on with the City Finances.

Anonymous said...

Paul was performing the duties of Chief of Police and City Admin long before he was officially tagged as CA.
The only change was to make it official and compensate the man.

It was a combination of upset employees (who apparentl still are upset) and a questionable political agenda that brought this about. Again, address problems within the PD. Let's not reframe our city government.
This city has around 1500 people in it. It shouldn't really require an entire municipal staff to equal that of City of Galveston.
The mayor IS a figurehead position here. For many years that has sufficed. Things will settle down about 2 months after the next election. I'm sure something drastic will happen within the PD, but it is probably overdue.

Anonymous said...

We need to get a petition to put it on the ballot to terminate the City Administrator position and have a Paid Mayor who is elected by the citizens and a full time Chief of Police. There is no additional cost. The Mayor would be elected by the Citizens where the City Administrator answers to no one.

Anonymous said...

Or 622 you could have said I don't know the answers to any of those questions

Anonymous said...

Craig,

You, my friend, are being diverted from the issue.
The credit card deal is something these people are using to either sway opinion in our community and/or to draw attention away from the horrendous way the CAVEs have handled this to date.
TAMI IS THE PROBLEM HERE. SECONDLY JUNKIE JACK. To a lesser degree Arlene, but she still deserves our respect. Hell, can't fault a girl for poor judgement every once in a while.
We shall vote soon. Then we will see what this community wants. Don't let them take you away from the battle at hand.

Anonymous said...

Is this possible? How many signatures would we need to put it on this ballot?

Anonymous said...

@6:37 Are you capable of ''getting'' this petition?
Do it.
Are you asking for approval?
If it's a good idea, try it. Throw some information in there about cost and about finding qualified personnel to run for mayor in a frickin voter pool of about 1500. How many are going to quit their jobs for your 2-year paid position. "Oh... we'll just hire the retired or the unemployed!" Great idea. unless you think it through. That's how you end up with Vern and Kathy. Hiring the retired and the unemployed. I say Charles Shriver for Mayor. He will throw your whiney asses off the island with the ducks and the Democrats on day 1 of his employment!

Anonymous said...

@6:47 - anything is possible.
Throw your name out so we will know who to talk to. ; )

I know that right off I can direct to about 6 signatures... not much but you'll probably only get about 3 or 4 times that on your own. Unless of course you tell them that we gonna tear down their houses.

Anonymous said...

Who says they have to live on the Island? Paul doesn't and is the City Administrator. The Chief of Police doesn't live on the Island either. How many signatures do we need?

Roselyn said...

Hey Jackie.......A year ago when you stopped by my house on Dogwood and asked me to vote for Arleen I told you I didn't think I could because I heard she was spreading rumors about Paul Shelley and she wanted him gone. You said to me, and I quote, "Oh No, Jean Garst told us all to back off of Paul Shelley". What was that about? My sister heard that comment too, so we are curious if you could answer that for us please.

Anonymous said...

646, I am not being diverted. Trust me on that one. I have lived across from Sunshine for almost 25 years. I am well aware of what is going on and the games they are playing. I am just playing this game right now. I have watched NS play games and win for many many years. The blog has exposed them and they are in panic mode. NS is playing several games right now and are desperately attempting to divert our attention. Remember I predicted they would play the victim card and throw a pity party. Well look back a few posts. That is happening on one level and this is happening on another. Beyond what is going on with Paul or our PD our main focus should be on putting the NS political machine to bed and getting a solid council that will lead us forward and work out all of these problems one at a time.

And 622 thanks for the non answers but I posed that question to Sunshine, Larry and Kathy. They seem to think they know everything and they are the ones who have to put up the goods. Innocent until proven Guilty kids.

Just me talkin, nothin important.

Craig

Anonymous said...

I don't know about you but I'm retired and not so addle that I wouldn't run. We have some well qualified people on the Island if the position paid. You might be surprised at who would step up. You might re-think your statement 6:57 against the Retired.

Anonymous said...

Craig, why not go straight to the horse's mouth. No one is going to believe it until Vern or Paul answers those questions in from of City Council so we can all hear it.

Anonymous said...

Did anyone notice Jean stared a website where we could get more information. Allan starts a blog where you can post information and ANYONE can comment and knock out the BS. Jean starts a website where she can preach to you and tell you anything she wants and NO ONE can rebutt her claims surprise susprise. We need to keep any eye on her soap box and expose the nonsense that is sure to be presented.

Anonymous said...

@7:03 - you need a lot more than you're going to be able to get.

You think you're going to head over to.... say Kemah for example. You think you're going to head over to Kemah and find a candidate that is electable in Clear Lake Shores? Or, will you be going into Houston for this Mayor?
That'snotmypoint! My point is - your idea isn't a good one.

I can assure you that I'm not opposed to the retired. I've dallied in it myself from time to time, however if you're only willing to run because you want the job $$, you don't get my vote. We don't need no big city governin round here.
Just wait a few months. Things will settle back down. NS doesn't have the political clout to make drastic changes. Apparently me, you and Craig are the only people that worried about it right now.

Anonymous said...

would be a lot easier to keep an eye on it if ya told us where to look.

jus' sayin

Anonymous said...

They can answer too if they choose. Right now I am asking Sunshine because she was the one wandering around in the middle of the night making the accusations. Why do you have a problem with me asking Sunshine? Why can't you sign your name? I allow you to know my name.

Anonymous said...

730. Its on the flyer Sunshine passed out last night. I don't have mine or I would give it to you. Does someone have it in front of them?

Anonymous said...

Arleen is innocent? None of this started until her very first CC. The second she is on Council all hell breaks out. That is tne reason I am submitting the DA form this week. She lied to us at Candidates Night. She has been reviewing the books like a hawk. To the point of embarrassment asking about the recurring pmt to Ameriwaste. Good God. she did not realize the city pays for trash pick-up and thought she was going to catch Paul with some major theft of the city. The loss of her friends and being shunned by the community is not enough. She needs charges brought down on her.

Anonymous said...

Apparently they didn't get all the way over to my corner of paradise. I was fortunate enough not to have trash in my yard this morning.

Anonymous said...

Once Arlene figured it all out she backed off. She was a pawn too. Just not as much of a dumbshit as the first two pawns.

Proud to be Pink said...

I agree with you anon 7:36. It is more evidence that the three have violated the Open Mtgs. Act.

I do not think we can lay back this election season and assume that NS has run out of p a w n s. True their reputation is at an all time low and they certainly lost many supportors when we lost Tina.

I hope potential candidates like Bryan and Carlo will officially announce early. Like Allan said let's start now by talking to neighbors.

Anonymous said...

ARLENE BACKED OFF!!!!!!!!ARE YOU F IN CRAZY. WAKE UP ANON 739

Anonymous said...

I can give a dam less about your games on here. What I do care about is getting the answers from Vern. I will be at the meeting on the 31st to demand those answers and if I don't get them I will go to the Galveston DA. I'm tired of the BS surrounding this. Paul, I respected you for a job well done but this needs to be put to bed now. J

Anonymous said...

BawwwwwBraaa is their new pawn have you noticed each meeting they drag a new succer in to a cc meeting but they almost never come back

Anonymous said...

stop yelling at me or I will quit talking to you.
That will leave you, Craig and the new Roselyn - Proud to Pitiful

Anonymous said...

Someone saw Arlene deliver Jean's "investigation" to our city attorney last week after the council meeting. so dont be fooled by that sweet little ole lady look. They said the attorney was "amused".

Anonymous said...

Oh No 801 is going to the DA!!!!!! Isn't that what we are already doing? J or whatever his name is must think he is a real bad ass

Anonymous said...

I think it's a her. And I think that J may be a bad ass. I heard SHE was running around in the middle of the night distributing political propaganda.
Or, shit disturbin as it was so eloquently put previuosly.
Agian. And, this is intended for both sides - NOBODY is going to be prosecuted for anything that has occurred here. Not Paul. Not Tami. Maybe somebody will get Jackie for failing to comply but that's about anybody's only chance.

Roselyn said...

I could not find Jean's website referred to above. I did find this interesting article published by ex Mayor Bill King from 2005 that references McIntyre and Garst. Interesting reading. Bill King sued John Scott and won a huge judgement. King published the following:

PRESS RELEASE – 3/03/05
Ladies and Gentlemen:


I thought that I ought to share with the entire community something that has happened in my lawsuit with John Scott over his anonymous mailers. Recently, Mr. Scott filed a motion to dismiss the case. Five members of our community filed sworn statements in support of Mr. Scott’s motion. Those individuals were John Conrad, Bernie McIntyre, Kathryn McIntyre, Ted Guthrie and Jean Garst. The judge threw out the affidavits and denied the motion, however, I thought you might like to hear some of things these individuals swore under oath were true.


The sworn statements are virtually identical. Here are a couple of the more interesting excerpts:


“I have read . . . the flyers and letters created and sent out to various persons in and around Kemah, Texas by Mr. Scott . . . All of the statements made in the informational releases (the flyers as they are being called by Mr. King) are true, to the best of my knowledge and belief.”[1]


Let me remind you of some of Mr. Scott’s statements which Mr. Conrad, Mr. & Mrs. McIntyre, Mr. Guthrie and Ms. Garst have sworn under oath are true:


In a mailing in August, 2003, Scott said of Kemah residents “[m]ost are discontents, troublemakers, perverts and new to the city.”

Also in August, 2003, Scott said in a mailer, “Kemp, Texas was a fun loving city, which was born out of whorehouses and gambling.”

In a September, 2003 e-mail, Mr. Scott said, “ . . . the city of Kemah is the biggest speed trap in the country.”

In a mailing in April, 2004, Mr. Scott stated, “Ben Blackledge was an icon of the community.”

For you Lakewood members, in a mailer in April, 2004, Scott cited a quote in relation to Lakewood members, to wit: “There is something to be said for yacht clubs; they drain off a lot of people you wouldn’t want to associate with anyway.”

I find it particular disappointing that a former Kemah City Councilman and currently a candidate to be re-elected to Council would vouch for such despicable things being said about his own city.



“[John Scott] should be admired as a public servant.”


This is the same John Scott who:


We now know is a convict (assault);

Lied to this entire community for months about his involvement in the anonymous flyers. In an interview with the Galveston County Daily News in July, 2004, Scott said, “I wouldn’t have anything to do with those. Why would I care about that? I don’t have any notion why he [King] would tie them to me.”

Lied under oath to the court about his involvement in the flyers.

Did everything he could to kill the annexation of Kemah Oaks and South Kemah because he was afraid those residents would not vote for him in the next election.

Went along with Bernie McIntyre being paid approximately $10,000 in illegal fees from the WCID and refused to do anything to make him pay the money back.

Set an all time record in spending WCID funds for out of town “education trips. At last count, Scott had soaked the WCID for over $6,000 for trip expenses.

We are in the process of taking the depositions of these five individuals. I am sure that we will learn more interesting details about their involvement with John Scott.


WEK





[1] Bernie McIntyre inserted the words “the overwhelming majority of the statements . . .” and Kathryn McIntyre and Jean Garst inserted the words “Most of the statements . . .

Anonymous said...

There you go North Shore. you weenies! This proves everything!

Right Craig?
Right Roselyn?


(ok, what exactly does this prove other than they are political malcontents and use lies and manipulation to achieve their goals?) I'm in the "we already know that shit" camp.

Why can't you poeple focus?

Anonymous said...

You are sadly mistaken 8:23. At the next meeting you may see Vern, Paul and Karen attorney up, or either answer the questions that were proposed here. I doubt that Bobby is amused. His job is to be the City Attorney and this is getting to serious for anyone to ignore the possible outcomes.

Anonymous said...

Bobby smiles all the way to the bank!

Anonymous said...

Great research, Roselyn. Wasn't there an article in The Islander after John Scott's death written by Kathy McIntyre? If I recall she made him out to be a hero and upstanding citizen. Thick as theives NS is, thick as thieves. The next huge settlement will be Bernie's. Sure wish we knew when the trial date will be.

Anonymous said...

So Bernie got at least $10,000 from the Water ID #12 when John Scott was on their Board.

Anonymous said...

Question: The City Counsel would have to propose a Referendum to be placed on the upcoming ballot to terminate the City Administrator's Position and to install a paid position as Mayor with those duties?

I see Paul is still listed as the Chief of Police/City Administrator on the 2011-2012 Budget. Why? I also don't see a Chief of Police but only an Ass't Chief of Police. Why? There is a little over 200k dollars between the two listed positions to create a paid Mayor position elected by the Citizens and a Chief of Police. The money should be attractive enough for qualified applicants to run for Mayor.

Anonymous said...

I think Vern should have gotten paid, especially since June. He certainly puts in more time than Kathie or Ted ever did. I remember Ted knocking on my door when he was getting a petition against Town Center. One comment he made,that stuck in my head, was along the lines that no one would be overseeing the project. I thought that may have been true when he was mayor and of course, Kathiy. It would not have been true today with Paul as city admin. He oversees it all. No one knows what all he does to make this community better. Hang in there Paul. 99 days to go.

Roselyn said...

Jean and Larry, please come pick up the trash you threw in my yard this weekend, otherwise I will have to file a littering complaint against you. You brought these issues up at council already, no need to throw trash in my yard about it. Thank you.

Anonymous said...

Littering charges! Brillant!

Anonymous said...

So petty. But remember it when your real-estate fliers end up in yard, what comes around will go around. Just chicken s--t.

Roselyn said...

I don't throw flyers in yards because I know its illegal. I think the civic club even has a permit to be able to throw The Islander in our yards. Jean has no regard for the law though as pointed out in what the lawyer Bill King published about them above.

If Jean's got something important to say she needs to mail it just like I did regarding the council meeting in June where they plotted to get rid of Tina and Paul.

Roselyn said...

P.S. Don't waste a stamp on me.

Anonymous said...

What happened to Bernie's trail? I was looking forward to seeing the videos.

Anonymous said...

What is Jean's and UTube Larry's address? I want to throw my letter back to them. Who else is in?

The sad thing is Arlene is probably right in there with them writting the letters. Probably Junkie Jackie. I doubt they involve Tammy since she can't form coherent thought or sentence. Certainly a police officer to see this activity happening. Oh, wait, they did it on Duhneez's graveyard shift and she provided an police escort.

Crystal Rose said...

Anon 7:58 it is at the bottom of their flyer along with their website address with even more information on...

Anonymous said...

Thanks Crystal Rose, needless to say I did not read that far into the trash.

So she has a website too? Perhaps Jean and Bawbaw are going to try to compete with Allan's blog. LOL!

Crystal Rose said...

No they cannot compete with the blog there is no room for comments or replies only information a very one sided argument.......

Anonymous said...

There is not a comment button because they don't want their son, who says he has a restraining order against Larry to be able to post. Probably took a lot of effort to get the You Tube video removed.

Anonymous said...

Please tell me UTube Larry's son does not live in CLS. I sure feel sorry for him. I felt that way prior to seeing the Utube video, but even worse afterwards. Glad to hear he has a restraining order.

Anonymous said...

I heard larrys son is basicly a homless person. he came to Cls a few years ago and lived on a bench by the bridge across from the clubhouse for a week or so tina finLLY ran him off

Anonymous said...

Ya'll have lost me. What U-tube video and the name so I can see it? What flyer and what web site? Let the rest of us in the this. NS do something again?

Anonymous said...

crystal can you give those of us who dont have it the website address?

Anonymous said...

there was a you tube viedeo of a recorded telephone call with larry a lady who was asking him about threats he allegedly made to slit his sons throat from ear to ear. he didn't admitt or deny it on the video i think he said he might have said it but didn't remember. it is off you tube now but i saw someone on the blog say they saved it maybe they can let you see it. the flyer was passed out at 2 in the morning sunday in the cover of darkness while we were asleep it is more credit card stuff jean listed a web site for more information

Anonymous said...

Missed us and my neighbor. What is the web site address? Is this more BS or what?

Crystal Rose said...

I truly believe in the freedom of speech and having all the facts to make up your own mind.If you did not get Larry & Jean's flyer it must have blown away by the sounds of it. The website is www.clstide.com, whether it is BS or not I have no idea.

Remember like Allan said we are all neighbors here and regardless of our opinions, I think we all want what is best for our island. It is just the methods used that are in question!

Anonymous said...

Crystal Rose, you haven't lived here long enough to know that there are some mean and deliberately devisive people in that group, so dont let your guard down. Even his son calls him a pathalogical liar in the video. Careful.....They will also bait you to help draw attendtion to their website where no one can post...careful.

Anonymous said...

I would not be surprised if any pinks went to Jeans website and were suddenly sent a virus or two.I knew they are divisive and would not put anything past them.

For those of you that skip the blog on weekends be sure to go back to Roselyn's post at 8:38pm for great historical information about NS. They lied under oath. Bernie's friend, John Scott helped Bernie get at least $10,000 from illegally.

Crystal Rose said...

Warning heeded anon 10:30......

Roselyn said...

This was released to the press today about our wonderful Karen. It is tragic that some of the NS gang would imply that she would cover up or take bribes from anyone. She has a fantastic career ahead of her and I for one am so happy we have her here. Please don't let a few a-holes run her off.:

City of Clear Lake Shores
Mayor’s Office 1006 South Shore Drive, Clear Lake Shores, TX 77565
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
January 23, 2012
City Secretary receives Public Finance Certification
Karen Mericle, City Secretary for the City of Clear Lake Shores, recently graduated from the
Institute of Governmental Finance.
The Institute of Governmental Finance is sponsored through the Texas Tech University
graduate program in Public Administration and is a professional education program in
governmental budgeting, accounting, and finance for local and state government employees in
Texas.
Mericle was one of 20 students accepted to the program in the state and was placed in the
inaugural session. The program consists of a total of 36 contact hours of on-site instruction from
known experts in each of the three areas: budgeting, accounting, and finance. In addition, the
program includes a competency examination at the end of the coursework.
Mericle has been the City Secretary for Clear Lake Shores since August 2004 and also serves as
the city’s accountant. She has over 16 years of governmental experience and also has the
designation of Texas Registered Municipal Clerk.

Anonymous said...

Dam, this is for real. Bobby needs to address this now. Vern, Paul, Karen and all the staff need to be put on Admin Leave of Absence until it determined who can or can't be charged. Those who kept the secret are just as guilty as those who committed the acts. City Counsel and City Attorney need to act and put Mayor Pro Temp Sowrey in charge until this is all resolved. It will take an outside CPA Firm to determine how much damage has been done.

I wonder if that is why Karen was at the Office all day Sunday. Anybody check to see if there are bags of shredded documents in the trash this morning. I think the City Counsel needs to send the Police and lock the doors.

Anonymous said...

Quit the dramatics anon 10:56, it is not that bad! Sounds like this stuff has occurred on other watches in the past and nobody rushed in gun ho then, with this level of scrutiny it is the one time you can be certain all will operate by the book!

Anonymous said...

Roselyn all that tells me is Karen new this was a crime by not reporting it to the City Counsel. I could respect her and wanted her to stay if she had reported it or furnished the documents freely to the City Counsel or City Attorney for action. Instead she aided and abetted in the City being used as a personal bank. In some ways I find the actions of Karen and those working in the Office worse than those who actually did it. Karen's silence has allowed this to go on for how long? This is so bad why didn't out CPA catch it also?

Anonymous said...

What does it matter on whose watch? Let the DA in and let the chips fall where they will. Vern, Paul, Tina, Karen and whoever else knew this? The Privileged Few abused our trust.

By the way Craig, is this still okay with you?

Anonymous said...

Remember this statement Roselyn: Seems like you knew all this was true.

Roselyn said...

I talked to Paul and he is not worried about any credit card charges not being paid. He said that his "good friend" Jean Garst, who made the open records requests for the credit cards never asked thru open records if they had been repayed or not.

I guess its more effective for NS to make a big deal about it if they know they only have half the info and act like they have it all. 

So, whoever is making these accusations, and I know its not Bernie because he remembers what happened to his friend, needs to tread carefully.



January 20, 2012 11:32 PM

Anonymous said...

look up the word slander
then the phrase defamation of character.

For those of you who have already passed judgment, very well. but you may want to consider keeping those opinions to yourself until there is more info.

you have been warned.

Suzanne said...

Why to go Karen. I am so proud of you for continuing your education. We are so lucky to have you in CLS.

I know you will not waste an ounce of energy on the pesty matters NS throws out. Well, of course, their relentless request for records...

Like Paul, keep your head held high and be the professional you always have been. There are only 99 days until positive, bright, forward thinking Council members are elected. Hang in there. Know you are appreciated.

Suzanne Hubbard